Problems crystal issues?

Okay. Well I got my stuff soldered and I think things are set up mostly right. Anyways when I plug my bat. in to test teh radio it just beeps which the manual said is probobly cause it isn't getting a signal from the reciever. What I think the problem is the radio crystal and the reciever. I have a eclipse 7 with the CH 23 72.250 RF module HPF-M in the radio. The reciver is a berg 5, and I ordered the crystal with it from helihobby and got teh ch23 crystal. On the crystal it says SR BERG 23. Also on the reciever it says, Fut/Hitec. SO i'm assuming the reciever is right is the crystals the same or are they not the right frequency.

Thanks all

Krea

Well, actually here is the thing. I don't get anything if I plug it into the reciever the (Proper) way being orange signal brown neg red pos. But if I put it in the other way (did this accidentally) that is when the mottor makes the beeping. I'm really confused. I don't think I wired anything wrong.

Any suggestions would be great

Krea

[HARRomeo]

The crystals are correct. Sounds more to me that you either have the servos wires installed backwards in the rx or that your throttle on the tx isn't at 0. My ESC beeps if I turn the heli on with the throttle stick at any position other than 0.. it's a safety feature.

The ESC seems to get really hot to, I just plug it into battery for a few seconds maybe 30 at max but it get definatlly warm to the touch in that amount of time.

[Bejay]

Krea, there's hundreds of ways to get it wrong....there's only one way to get it right. You can't be nearly right or not very wrong.

The Berg receiver will have a certain way that the wires from the servos have to be and that's the way THEY HAVE TO BE. If it doesn't work that way then there is something else wrong. Changing the connections to something else won't make it right.....but it might just blow the whole lot.

You're not helping us help you, we have to ferret about obtaining information which is essential to even start to imagine what could be wrong. So please, take a deep breath and tell us exactly what the problem is, starting with how things are set-up.

Okay, Well I *Think* they are set up properly.
Setup from ESC (Pegasus-35P) to Motor( MMR) Red Goes to the (+) on Motor and White goes to well MMR doesn't say i'm going to assume (-). (IN this setup the + is actually on the oposite side of the red wire, yet still the same metal piece.) I can clarify this if need be.

Setup from ESC To Battery Red Wire to connector to red wire on battery. Same for the black wire, black wire to black wire, through the deans connectors.

Then the Servo/Battery connector from the ESC goes to the Berg CH 3. With the Orange in the Sig, the red in the pos, and brown in the neg.

Then from the Berg We have the 3 Swash servos go into ch 1,2, and 6. Ch 4 goes to the Gyro (Ikuras Profi) and the servo plugs into the tail servo. This i'm not sure I have right. First off the plug for servo into the gyro is keyed on gyro but the connection really isn't. I have it orientated so the wire colors match up to those going out to the Reciever, that being yellow to orange, red to red, and brown to black.

Set up on the eclipse 7 is I set up a Memory for heli, and followed through steps to set up swash. But after that they tell me to turn it off so I do that, then they have setup in the manual for things relating to if it were working so this is were I plug in the battery to the ESC.

With it setup this way, nothing happens, except the ESC heating up pretty bad, like I said I only keep it plugged in for up to 30 sec and just w/ that it gets noticiably hot. The battery light on the Gyro does not light up. No noise on the Motor, no movement on the servos.

The pack was prebuild from fxareomodels so I'm assuming they set Red up to Pos.

For my charger the Reds line up w/ the reds and black w/ blacks through the connectors.

The Eclipse radio during set up allows you to select the proper shift for the receiver you are using. Have you selected the proper shift for your receiver?

Page 11 of the Eclipse manual explains how to do this.

[Bejay]

That's much better...but I still haven't a clue !!! NO, just joking.

I assume that the Eclipse7 does use channel 3 for throttle and you haven't just taken that information from any receiver literature ??

If the throttle isn't at zero then the esc shouldn't initialise, so does channel 3 on the transmitter need reversing ??

The other way is do you have a receiver battery, or could you borrow one.
Connect it to the receiver instead of the esc and check the radio that way first.

I hope you've got the motor gear out of mesh while you're doing this...if it does start it will make an awful mess of the main gear if it's all meshed up.

Yes, Channel 3 is in fact throttle. As for the Negative and Postive shift. I have it set up for Negative Shift which i'm assuming is correct considering the fut/hitec label on the side of teh reciever. As for the reciever pack [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. No don't have one to test this with to test out radio stuff. What is odd is the servos don't even glitch when plugging battery in to ESC shoudln't they atleast glitch? I guess that would explain the whole wanting me to test reciever pack.

Try plugging the battery in without the motor itself plugged in and tell me what happens?

I have the exact same set up you have except I have a gy- 240 gyro, and my eclipse has the spectre modual. It shouldn't matter if the throttle channel is reverse or not, your servo's should function. From what you posted about how you have everything hooked up it should work. Another question for you, did you put the diode on the motor with the stripe on the positive side of the motor?

P.S. Take the main blades off while you're sorting this out, or at least the pinion gear.