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Old 27.04.01, 10:31
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HI,
Yes it is possible to replace the diode by a 1 N4001 but the result will be not as good as expected: the 1N 4001 is a standard diode (silicon) and the diode needed for the "free wheel" of the picboard (this is the right name for this component !) as to be a schottky diode. The difference between these components is the response time that is much quicker for the schottky one.
So, if you want everything work good and for a long time, replace the faultly diode by any schottky diode rated for 3 Amp/20 Volts.
It will protect your picboard and, most important, the speed controler will work better at slow seed.

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Old 27.04.01, 10:37
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Comar,
you're probably right about the diode, but i heard that it was a 1N4004 and not a 4001.

(2 cents)

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Old 27.04.01, 10:38
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There is no diference in response time between 1N4001 and 1N 4004. The firt 1 is rated for 100 V and the second 1 for 400 V.
That's all.



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Old 27.04.01, 11:12
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i figured that.( i work on guitar amplifiers/ big and bulky)

so are you saying that the piccoboard does in fact use an actual schottky originally?

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Old 27.04.01, 11:14
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SPeed is not the issue here ,

The lower forward voltage of a schottky diode is much more important to reduce the negative voltage generated by the motor at cut-off periods by the esc .
with a 1NXXX , the motor will get hotter and efficienty will go down .
I've build enough ESC's from scratch to know .
the problem is to find these SMD components in small amounts !! .
For fast replacements , the 1NXXX will do .
regards ,

Koen VG
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Old 27.04.01, 11:27
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Hi KOEN,
you're right when you say that efficency is affected by this diode but did you try any ESC with and without this diode ?
The difference at low rpm is very important. It is almost impossible to control a motor at low speed if the diode is not a good one.
And yes, the motor will be hot if the diode is not a schottky one...
There is a lot of schottky diodes (Motorola MBR serie for example) that fit on the pic board and they are better than 1N400x

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Old 27.04.01, 15:19
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I am following the discussion on the correct diode for the PiccoBoard replacement, but I have lost trace of who need this diode!!
I have the right one: schottky diode 3A 40V in SMD technology, so I can send the replacement diode only if I know who need it!

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Old 30.04.01, 10:30
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OK,

I have managed to toast my piccoboard !!!

See http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/ubb/F...ML/003416.html for details.

Can anyone tell me if it is normal for the main motor to run at full speed when this happens???

There is no control over it at all, but the tail motor and gyro work fine!!!

Have tried a 1N4004, but it makes no difference. So I am thinking of getting a seperate ESC for the main motor.

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Old 30.04.01, 15:42
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Hi comar ,

Could you e-mail me your e-mail adress ,i need it to send you your photos about the heading lock module.

My e-mail adress is in the top and in my profile

Thanks

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Old 30.04.01, 22:48
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TAW,

my friend had that same problem, where the main motor runs at full blast and cannot be controlled. the only difference i see is that the servos also worked just fine.
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